I'm posting this here to help me remember.
Q: Do you happen to remember exactly when the ancient people went underground? I thought it was about 12000 years ago.
A: 12,000 is correct in the original story. Later reading rock books he decided dero might be quite recent.
www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/irl/irl11.htm#fr_31
archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_v19n02_1945-06.Ziff-Daviscape1736/page/n32
Consistency was no hobgoblin to the mind of Richard Shaver. Correspondence published in The Hidden World indicates that as early as 1948, for instance, Shaver was speculating that the Elder races didn't evacuate Earth but instead were wiped out by a "wave of heat and flame from the sun" some 30,000 years ago, and that the dero might be relatively recent arrivals rather than degenerate Elders.
www.shavertron.com/feardownbelow.html
Q: I wonder if EXD is Atlan for Vril.
A: Vril would be full disintegrant because of the r horror letter an anti life dis beam.
Vril = vitality horror I life
Exd being ex-disintegrant ash is full integrate.
Ulegra might be vril even though Shaver said it was less toxic than our electricity.
Ulegra = you life energy generate horror animal - means a form of nerve electric generated by horrible means or toxic to animal cells.
Cavern defense beams use penetray layered with conductor ray. Dis beam is then superimposed allowing the multiplexed needle ray to deliver full power with excellent target acquisition. Needle rays can even penetrate exd hardened metal by out-massing kinetic of force flow.
Vril-ya are dero. ya = why do these animals exist. Vital from cavern energies but a form of horrible life.
Ana = animal child of animals.
The Vril-ya are descendants of an antediluvian civilization called the Ana, who live in networks of subterranean caverns linked by tunnels. Originally surface dwellers, they had fled underground thousands of years ago to escape a massive flood and gained greater power by facing and dominating the harsh conditions of the Earth. The place where the narrator descended housed 12,000 families, one of the largest groups.
Their society was a technologically supported Utopia, chief among their tools being an "all-permeating fluid" called "Vril", a latent source of energy that the spiritually elevated hosts are able to master through training of their will, to a degree that depended on their hereditary constitution. This mastery gave them access to an extraordinary force that could be controlled at will. It is this fluid that the Vril-ya employed to communicate with the narrator.
The powers of the Vril included the ability to heal, change, and destroy beings and things; the destructive powers in particular were powerful, allowing a few young Vril-ya children to destroy entire cities if necessary.
Dero Timeline and Vril
Re: Dero Timeline and Vril
Ulegra is the Elder word for electric. Ra apparently stands for ray in this case like ro stands for robot in tero and dero.
"Suddenly from two miles overhead a cream-colored ray shot down through the blackness, and the ulegra, Elder word for electric, flowed over the ray, into the war-ray chambers where the rows of..." https://archive.org/details/AmazingStor ... /page/n119
Ulegra explained 29 minutes 48 seconds
"Suddenly from two miles overhead a cream-colored ray shot down through the blackness, and the ulegra, Elder word for electric, flowed over the ray, into the war-ray chambers where the rows of..." https://archive.org/details/AmazingStor ... /page/n119
Ulegra explained 29 minutes 48 seconds
Re: Dero Timeline and Vril
Monsters From the Id Forbidden Planet
http://www.shavertron.com/Mantong1.html
Monsters From the Id = man is origin of children spawned by sun disintegrant - fertility horror origin is man - the individual is degenerate
https://www.yog-sothoth.com/wiki/index.php/Dero
https://web.archive.org/web/20080203015 ... rTrek.html
Richard S. Shaver, the Ancestor of Star Trek
Copyright © 2003, Wm. Michael Mott
Recently I spent some time watching the Star Trek "chain reaction" marathon on the SCIFI Channel. A rare treat was presented: the original, uncut pilot for the series, called "The Cage." Later this was broken into two parts and called "The Menagerie," but originally it stood alone. The original pilot contains much material that the later Menagerie version does not, and I was moved to make some observations which I've been thinking about for years, in regard to this original episode and the SCIFI source material upon which it is based.
Briefly put, the USS Enterprise, under the command of Capt. Christopher Pike, answers a distress call which emanates from the remote planet of Talos IV. As a result of investigating this supposed "crash site" and survivors, Capt. Pike is taken prisoner by a group of super-advanced subterranean humanoids, called "Talosians." The Talosians, due to their physical frailty, can no longer exist on the surface of their hostile planet, which was ravaged by war in the distant past.
They exist in a world of illusion, augmented and initialized by the power of their own huge brains, and apparently enabled by unseen ancient machinery which magnifies the power and seeming reality of the illusion. This latter point is made clear by "Vina," the captive, shipwrecked human woman whom the Talosians have as captive, and whom they wish to "breed" with Capt. Pike. Vina makes the statement that the "Talosians" are too physically frail to survive on the surface, and exist by means of machinery which they themselves cannot understand or create, but which perpetuates them.
Of course this is all familiar, and greatly predates the Star Trek pilot "The Cage." Richard Shaver postulated an identical scenario, with his "dero," "tero," and their subterranean existence. The dero and tero have their "mech," one type of which is used to generate physically-real, solid, 3D holograms or illusions. The "Talosians" seem to be a mixture of the dero (occasional torturers and sexual fantasy voyeurs) and tero (Terosians? Not a far leap), being more like the tero in the end, with an interest in "helping" humanity whether we like it or not, through the breeding of a human race to repopulate their own ravaged world.
This concept is also echoed in some of Shaver's fiction concerning the Atlans and Titans. "The Cage" also mirrors other subterranean lore, stretching back for centuries, with the interest in human reproduction, sexual fantasies, manipulation, and so on. Also predating the first Star Trek pilot is the esoteric belief that a subterranean city of hidden "Lemurians" exists beneath Mt. Shasta in Northern California, in a city called "Telos." These Lemurian descendants are called, of course, "Telosians." This "Telos" of Mt. Shasta, probably a fictional creation of "Doreal," is more or less based on both the Shaver Mystery material and on the writings of James Churchward and Helena Blavatsky. This myth was later propagated as truth by the publishing arm of the Rosicrucians, through a variety of volumes and authors.
Although it would in all likelihood be denied, it is evident that Gene Roddenberry based the material for his first Star Trek venture on the pulp and folk elements of the Shaver Mystery and the Telosian-Shasta mythology of Doreal and others. It would appear that one of the greatest science-fiction forces of the twentieth century and one of the most powerful scifi popular culture icons of our time, the Star Trek phenomenon, owes its genesis and existence to the pulp-fiction and pseudo-mystical "truth" writers of earlier years, particularly to the most reviled and ridiculed of them all, Richard S. Shaver.
As Spock might say, "Interesting...."
CAVERNS, CAULDRONS, AND CONCEALED CREATURES
Text and Images Copyright © 2001, 2003, Wm. Michael Mott
http://www.shavertron.com/Mantong1.html
Monsters From the Id = man is origin of children spawned by sun disintegrant - fertility horror origin is man - the individual is degenerate
https://www.yog-sothoth.com/wiki/index.php/Dero
https://web.archive.org/web/20080203015 ... rTrek.html
Richard S. Shaver, the Ancestor of Star Trek
Copyright © 2003, Wm. Michael Mott
Recently I spent some time watching the Star Trek "chain reaction" marathon on the SCIFI Channel. A rare treat was presented: the original, uncut pilot for the series, called "The Cage." Later this was broken into two parts and called "The Menagerie," but originally it stood alone. The original pilot contains much material that the later Menagerie version does not, and I was moved to make some observations which I've been thinking about for years, in regard to this original episode and the SCIFI source material upon which it is based.
Briefly put, the USS Enterprise, under the command of Capt. Christopher Pike, answers a distress call which emanates from the remote planet of Talos IV. As a result of investigating this supposed "crash site" and survivors, Capt. Pike is taken prisoner by a group of super-advanced subterranean humanoids, called "Talosians." The Talosians, due to their physical frailty, can no longer exist on the surface of their hostile planet, which was ravaged by war in the distant past.
They exist in a world of illusion, augmented and initialized by the power of their own huge brains, and apparently enabled by unseen ancient machinery which magnifies the power and seeming reality of the illusion. This latter point is made clear by "Vina," the captive, shipwrecked human woman whom the Talosians have as captive, and whom they wish to "breed" with Capt. Pike. Vina makes the statement that the "Talosians" are too physically frail to survive on the surface, and exist by means of machinery which they themselves cannot understand or create, but which perpetuates them.
Of course this is all familiar, and greatly predates the Star Trek pilot "The Cage." Richard Shaver postulated an identical scenario, with his "dero," "tero," and their subterranean existence. The dero and tero have their "mech," one type of which is used to generate physically-real, solid, 3D holograms or illusions. The "Talosians" seem to be a mixture of the dero (occasional torturers and sexual fantasy voyeurs) and tero (Terosians? Not a far leap), being more like the tero in the end, with an interest in "helping" humanity whether we like it or not, through the breeding of a human race to repopulate their own ravaged world.
This concept is also echoed in some of Shaver's fiction concerning the Atlans and Titans. "The Cage" also mirrors other subterranean lore, stretching back for centuries, with the interest in human reproduction, sexual fantasies, manipulation, and so on. Also predating the first Star Trek pilot is the esoteric belief that a subterranean city of hidden "Lemurians" exists beneath Mt. Shasta in Northern California, in a city called "Telos." These Lemurian descendants are called, of course, "Telosians." This "Telos" of Mt. Shasta, probably a fictional creation of "Doreal," is more or less based on both the Shaver Mystery material and on the writings of James Churchward and Helena Blavatsky. This myth was later propagated as truth by the publishing arm of the Rosicrucians, through a variety of volumes and authors.
Although it would in all likelihood be denied, it is evident that Gene Roddenberry based the material for his first Star Trek venture on the pulp and folk elements of the Shaver Mystery and the Telosian-Shasta mythology of Doreal and others. It would appear that one of the greatest science-fiction forces of the twentieth century and one of the most powerful scifi popular culture icons of our time, the Star Trek phenomenon, owes its genesis and existence to the pulp-fiction and pseudo-mystical "truth" writers of earlier years, particularly to the most reviled and ridiculed of them all, Richard S. Shaver.
As Spock might say, "Interesting...."
CAVERNS, CAULDRONS, AND CONCEALED CREATURES
Text and Images Copyright © 2001, 2003, Wm. Michael Mott
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