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Supplements I take

Post by Ye Admin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:51 am

Kirkland Daily Multi

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Kirkland Signature Calcium Citrate 500mg ,500 Tablets with Vitamin D3, Magnesium & Zinc

SlowFe Iron

Twinlabs B-12 dots

Fish Oil Pills

Solgar's Folate (Not folic acid)

Solgar's Vitamin D 10,000 UI

I've stopped the folate because I need to do a new B12 test and am concerned with it affecting results.

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Post by Ye Admin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:59 am

I've received the TwinLabs Niacin, 500mg. On the first day (yesterday), I thought no flushing was going to happen, but an hour later, it did.

My wife tried it as well after dinner and flushing came within 20 minutes. Today, she had it after breakfast and apparently no flushing occurred. This could mean she could try a larger dose. Sleep was considerably better for her last night.

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Post by aeon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:40 pm

Your supplements seem okay although if I see this right the calcium zinc pill added to the multi vitamin pill makes a total of 21 mgs of zinc which is too high in my opinion. Zinc prolongs the effect of insulin. Ingesting too much zinc can lead to changes in the way iron works in your body, anemia and low copper levels. It also can cause a low white blood cell count.

In my case I became very tired or sedated on zinc above 12 mgs and on 15 mgs, I gained 10 pounds with the same calories.

The copper level should really be 2 mgs but .9 mgs copper is fine for 11 mgs of zinc.

The problem I've had over the years with pills was either not disintegrating or some of the inert ingredients, which is why I take mostly powders and liquids these days.

Nicotinic acid flushing is quite unpredictable. I have eaten a big fatty meal then taken a 100 mgs and flushed beet red 10 minutes later!


http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/ ... -you-take/

http://preventdisease.com/news/articles ... oxic.shtml

Now they don't say if this is elemental zinc or not but this is still a good example of too much zinc.

Zinc Gluconate: 50 mg (7 mg elemental zinc).
Zinc Sulfate: 110 mg (25 mg elemental zinc).

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Post by aeon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:26 pm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2 ... ddd0000221

Older balance studies suggested that the adult requirement for copper ranged from 2.0 to 2.6 mg/day, whereas later studies indicated that intakes less than 2.0 mg/day, and often not much more than 1.0 mg/day, could maintain positive copper balance (Mason, 1979).

If the true gastrointestinal absorption of copper at intakes of 1.7 to 2.0 mg is 36% (± 1.3 SEM) (Turnlund et al., 1989), then a dietary intake of 0.3 mg/day is required to replace body surface losses.

Adding this figure to the average dietary intake of 1.3 mg/day needed to replace urinary and fecal losses indicates that a total dietary copper intake of approximately 1.6 mg/day is required to maintain balance in adult men.

Many U.S. diets provide less than 1.6 mg of copper daily (Klevay, 1984).

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/minerals/copper

The RDA for copper (900 μg/day for adults) is sufficient to prevent deficiency, but the lack of clear indicators of copper nutritional status in humans makes it difficult to determine the level of copper intake most likely to promote optimum health or prevent chronic disease. A varied diet should provide enough copper for most people. For those who are concerned that their diet may not provide adequate copper, a multivitamin/mineral supplement will generally provide at least the RDA for copper.

Because aging has not been associated with significant changes in the requirement for copper, our recommendation for older adults is the same as that for adults 50 and younger.

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Post by aeon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:05 pm

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-008 ... 00-1w.html

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/folicacid/cereals.html

How many people eat only one serving of cereal? Anything over 1000 mcgs of folic acid can mask B-12.


A mandated food additive aimed at better fetal development could be simultaneously increasing health risks for seniors. Scientists said this week that folic acid fortification of cereals and grains in the US may be dangerously concealing vitamin B12 deficiency in the elderly.

Dr Ralph Green, speaking at the American Association for Clinical Chemistry (AACC) meeting in Philadelphia this week, claims that higher levels of folic acid intake prevent the anemia produced both by folic acid and B12 deficiencies. This means that elderly people will not be alerted to low levels of B12 which can cause deterioration in brain health.

But previous studies have shown that folic acid doses of more than 1 milligram per day can lead to undiagnosed cases of B-12 deficiency. The U.S. government advises people to avoid consuming more than 1 milligram of folic acid per day.

"There is no question that large doses of folic acid [masks B-12 deficiency]. The question is, could it happen with lower doses of folic acid. That is unclear," Green said.

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I'm looking at the complete label now. The good news is they give you 1 mg of copper so as a stand alone product it is fine. Added to your other multi supplement it is too much zinc and too much manganese.

Now many people want to take a gram of calcium a day so they would get 20 mgs zinc and 2 mgs of manganese.

In the 70s manganese was rarely added except as naturally included in bone meal tablets and they did not routinely add it to calcium as necessary. This was started by a faulty research paper in the 90s. Manganese is quite toxic and causes hyper-sedation - you feel out of it - stupefied.

The safe range is really 1 to 2 mgs daily not 3 mgs or above. It is not necessary for calcium only magnesium and vitamin D are.

With your multi at 2.3 manganese that is 3.3 mgs manganese and if you take a gram of calcium that is 4.3 mgs manganese. That over time would wreck your memory, general awareness and even affect your muscles and physical movements. Adding this to your Imovane pill and no wonder you feel out of it.


There was insufficient information on manganese requirements to set a Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA), the Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) of the Institute of Medicine set an adequate intake (AI). Since overt manganese deficiency has not been documented in humans eating natural diets. Adults 19 years and older: Males 2.3 mgs. Females 1.8 mgs.

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Re: Supplements I take

Post by aeon » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:46 pm

Natural Vitamin E Mixed Tocopherols is best.

Tocotrienols or High Gamma E are useless.

https://www.iherb.com/pr/Now-Foods-Natu ... ftgels/304

There was a long standing debate as to whether natural or synthetic vitamin E is better. For most vitamins, there is no difference between natural and synthetic. In fact, for most vitamins, the only forms available are synthetic. With vitamin E, however, the natural form has proven to be far superior.

Natural vitamin E is distributed through the body much better than the synthetic form. The reason is that specific carrier proteins in the liver selectively bind to natural vitamin E and transport it through the blood to our cells. These carrier proteins only recognize a portion of synthetic vitamin E and ignore the remainder.

Japanese researchers gave natural or synthetic vitamin E to young women to measure how much vitamin E actually made it into their blood. It took only 100 mg (149 IU) of natural vitamin E to produce blood levels that required 300 mg (448 IU) of synthetic vitamin E to achieve.

When checking vitamin labels, natural vitamin E is usually stated as the “d” form.

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Re: Supplements I take

Post by Ye Admin » Fri May 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Just moved into a new house. Feeling extremely unproductive. The doctor was prescribing me T4 in gel caps, but we had to change it to tablet form because of insurance issues.

I haven't taken folate in months because I wanted to have a realistic result on my B12 tests. Now I don't even have energy to drag myself to the labs.

I need to do a sleep study, as I'm certain that I get no quality sleep whatsoever and only a few hours a night.

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